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Dekuju vsem ucastnikum a prikladam zaznam diskuse. Pozdeji se chystam
provest zapis (vytah duleziteho). Zminene setkani nazivo na zitrek
patrne tez nevyjde, jeste uvidim zitra. <br>
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<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2"></font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cf2458">(18:59:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(207, 36, 88);">dqd: </span>19:00:00<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#3a768b">(19:00:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(58, 118, 139);">Ctibor_: </span>Budeme
tančit.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:00:12)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>vazne?
ua<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:00:19)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>mate
uplne jiny prezdivky nez v konfere, to jsem na to zvedavej ...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:00:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>ja
ne<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:00:42)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>teda
zvedavej jo<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:00:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>Ja
jsem ten, ktery stravil vcera vecer tri hodiny okusovanim nehtu, mam
pravo zacit slezinu. :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#3a768b">(19:01:14)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(58, 118, 139);">Ctibor_: </span>Do
toho.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:01:20)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>zacni<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(19:01:24)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>ahoj<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:01:25)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>proslov,
proslov<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#0f0544">(19:01:25)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(15, 5, 68);">dvx: </span>jeste
pockejte<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:01:37)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>dobre,
pripravte si mavatka<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:01:39)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ahoj
vsem, vitejte.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:01:46)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>ahoj
- mate je matesfila z konferencie...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:01:49) </font></span><b><font
size="3">whit_ [<i>~whit@r9cc151.net.upc.cz</i>] entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:02:02)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>asi
nema smysl zkoumat ted dopredu, kdo je pod jakou prezdivkou. :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:02:33)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>jj,
stejně bch to zapomněl, i když záznam je zapnut ;-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:02:44)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>musim
rict, ze me tesi vase ucast. povazuju ji za hojnou na to, ze to bylo
popsano vagne a svolano narychlo :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:03:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>tak
ja som na toto fakt zvedavy, lebo doteraz som chatoval max s jednym
clovekom sucasne a aj to sme si skakali do reci obcas :-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:04:19)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>myslim,
ze by nebylo od veci udelat si jakysi prehled o tom, kde se nachazime
pro pripadne realne setkani.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#3a768b">(19:04:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(58, 118, 139);">Ctibor_: </span>Ostrava<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:04:31)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>pragl<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(19:04:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>Pekne
vsechny zdravim, tady Vitek, budu to tak sledovat a varit veceri...
Jinak jsem djangonaut z Centrum Holdings v Praglu.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:04:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>Malacky
:-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#062585">(19:04:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(6, 37, 133);">***dqd </span>Brno.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:04:53)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>praha<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#dc5fc2">(19:04:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(220, 95, 194);">HS: </span>Zilina<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:05:06)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>Lliberec
(Praha je za rohem)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#062585">(19:05:12)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(6, 37, 133);">***dvx </span>ricany<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#7fbd99">(19:05:22)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(127, 189, 153);">Yetty: </span>Plzeň
:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(19:05:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>Praha/(Jablonec
za rohem)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:05:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:06:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>Praha
(Karel Gott za rohem)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:06:15)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>mimochodem,
je tu nadprumerny vyskyt Vladimiru. to je neobvykle<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:06:43)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>diky,
klidne dokoncete, kdo jeste nenapsal misto. dalsi otazka:<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:06:57) </font></span><b><font
size="3">k21_ [<i>~d4189826@gateway/web/freenode/x-zbkeouxrpykbvksu</i>]
entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:08:08)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>predpokladam,
ze jste spise zamestnanci, ktery python pouzivaji doma se zajmu nebo
pro zamestnavatele, ale neoficialne. pokud se nekdo tomuto vymyka: jeho
zamestnavatel pouziva python oficialne NEBO jste na volne noze a
pythonu se venujete/chcete venovat, napiste prosim<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:08:09) </font></span><b><font
size="3">geon left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:08:17)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>"ze
zajmu" :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:08:51) </font></span><b><font
size="3">geon [<i>~dady@gw-105.scnet.cz</i>] entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:08:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>mno
muj chlebodarce je tedy "oficialne" pythoni<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#0f0544">(19:09:12)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(15, 5, 68);">dvx: </span>amater<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#062585">(19:09:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(6, 37, 133);">***dvx </span>je
amater<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(19:09:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>V
Centru naprosto oficialne, pro vlastni klienty taktez :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:09:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>Python
dobrovolne zo zaujmu, momentalne dobvolne nezamestnnaý :-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:09:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>za
me: jsem zejmena na volne noze a pythonu se chci venovat temer
vyhradne, jak vyvoj, tak vyuka. zam. pomery take mam (ucim na skole
python a v druhem zam. je python jen kdyz ho protlacim pres zuby sefa)
:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:10:36)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>na
akej je to skole? Vysoka, stredna, zakladna...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:10:47)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>soukromy
gympl<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:10:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ale
nejsem v konferenci sam, kdo uci<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:10:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>on
uz se neuci paskvil? waaau<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:11:09)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>jsou
stredni skoly, co jedou Javu :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:11:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>konecne
dobre zpravy<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:11:19)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>momentalne
bez angazma a chci se venovat spouste veci... napriklad vyspelym
skolackam a pythonu.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#7fbd99">(19:11:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(127, 189, 153);">Yetty: </span>jak
kde, pascal porad zije... bohuzel...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:11:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>tim,
ze tohle je soukroma skola, tak jsem si mohl vybrat, co je budu ucit.
ale snazim se ucit principy. ale uz jsem dokonce mel v hodine i
inspekci z ministerstva a az na vyhrady jsem se libil ;)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:11:57)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ViNiL:
je dobre, ze mas priority<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:11:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>otázku
jsem prosvihl, ale odpověd je: python dobrovolně, v zaměstnání ne<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(19:13:00)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>python:
naprosty amater, ale potencionalni zamestnavatel ;)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:13:02)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>asi
odpovedela vetsina. klidne doplne odpoved kdykoli behem jineho tematu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:13:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>keson:
toho jsem se bal :))<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:13:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>az
to reknes<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:13:21)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>jo
snazim se. ale jinak samozrejme pythonuju oficialne. kdysi treba v tom
centru, kdyz to tu uz padlo '=_<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#7fbd99">(19:13:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(127, 189, 153);">Yetty: </span>student
na volné noze... :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:13:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>keson:
ses keson ze sandboxu? :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(19:14:11)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>ano<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:15:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>dalsi
vec: budu rad, kdyz mi napisete, co vas na mem mailu zaujalo, kvuli
cemu tady jste -- jinak receno, jake tema pro rozvedeni myslite, ze by
bylo uzitecne probrat. uz jsme neco s vinilem soukrome natukli, ale
brainstormingu se meze nekladou. nevime vse.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:16:33)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>mno
me asi nejvic zaujalo ze jeste nekdo pouziva irc :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:17:03)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
tak tos toho jeste hodne nevidel :) IRC se dnes v OSS pouziva bezne
jako helpdesk napriklad<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:17:22)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>vim
ale u nas to pozoruju hodne malo<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:17:43)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>nebo
mozna koukam spatnym smerem<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:17:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
u nas?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:17:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>.cz<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:18:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>tak
to nepotvrzuju<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:18:47)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>msgre:
mas technicky problemy, ze se nevyjadrujes? :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:19:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ma
nadeje, ze pisete sve vyjadreni, se pomalu rozplyva :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:20:21)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>seriously,
zaujal me seznam realneho pouziti pythonu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:20:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
myslis "success stories" ?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:20:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>Druhy
napad: Vytvoreni mista, kde by se uvadely firmy, ktere Py pouzivaji vic
nez jen tak, ze jejich admini potichu patlaji male utility.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(19:21:41)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>me
se zalibila snaha rozhybat komunitu, kdyby byly podobny setkani jako
maj rubysti ve fraktalu...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:21:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>mame
tady centrum a seznam, to by se myslim dalo povazovat za spicku ceskyho
itnernetovyho ledovce :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:22:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>o
"success stories" mi prave psal vinil, ze by rad zavedl. jak psal uz i
do konfery. myslim, ze bych zajimavymi kousky tez mohl prispet. otazka
je, jestli bych sehnal svoleni.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:22:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>a
do jake podrobnosti jit -- jestli treba i uvadet jednotlive sajty, byt
velmi navstevovane, treba ateo.cz v djangu :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(19:22:41)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>k
success stories bychom asi mohli taky prispet.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:23:24)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>mě
by se líbilo, kdyby každý, kdo se seznámí s nějakou novou věcí (pro
něj) a bude mít pocit, že to může být alespon trochu zajímavý i pro
ostatní, aby o tom hodil pár řádek na py.cz<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:23:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>moje
hlavni motivace je: 1) sehnat nove zname a kamarady, protoze pythonisti
se vyznacuji podobnym zpusobem uvazovani -- k pythonu je dostaly
podobne motivace, 2) najit potencialni spolupracovniky.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#dc5fc2">(19:23:56)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(220, 95, 194);">HS: </span>ja
som prisiel skor zo zvedavosti, nemam ziadne prefrerencie o teme; ...aj
ked mozno by bolo dobre poriesit nejake ne/pravidelne publikovanie
clankov na webe<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:24:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>jenze
k bodu 2 bych potreboval, aby ti spolupracovnici brali obchodni
hledisko za tak podstatne, jake si zaslouzi. uspokojit klienta,
primerene komunikovat. a to chapu, ze bude tezsi nez jen "najit kamose"<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:25:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>no,
k tem success stories, to samozrejme muze mit spostu forem. Libi se mi
drobne citaty z python.org. V podstate ve trech vetach rict, co ten
subjekt (s pythonem) dela, jak k tomu prisel (zadrhele a pozitiva) a
jake ma plany. 1-5 radek.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:25:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>to
by nemela byt reklama pro spolecnosti.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:25:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>na
to samozrejme mohou navazovat case studies, o konkretnich projektech,
aplikacich, akcich atd. rozsahem vyrazne vetsim.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:25:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>geon:
vim, ze uz dlouho pracujes na snippetech na py.cz. presouvani napadu
treba z konferene na web. <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:26:11)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>vinil
by mohl občas pravidelně info o navstevnosti wiki, aby lidi neměli
pocit, že to píší pro nikoho<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:26:26)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>(tuto
otazku by neotviral ;-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:26:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>:))<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:26:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>geon:
opravdu nevim, jestli to chces :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:26:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>jesli
tam nikdo nechodí, tak chce řá<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:26:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>zásah<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:27:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>;-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:27:29) </font></span><b><font
size="3">messa [<i>~messa@94.79.broadband12.iol.cz</i>] entered the
room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:27:30)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>ja
tam parkrat nasel odkaz na neco zajimavyho ale to uz je davno<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:27:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ViNiL:
mohl bys prosimte rozvest tu svou myslenku na success stories v
samostatnem vlakne v konfere, napsat k tomu vse tohle? zda se, ze to
bude mit podporu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:27:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>jasne.
mimochodem, aktualni statistiku najdete na: <a
href="http://www.zagamma.cz/analog/py.cz/">http://www.zagamma.cz/analog/py.cz/</a><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:27:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>to
vam nemusim posilat<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(19:27:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>zdravim<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(19:27:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">ViNiL: </span>tuttle:
mohl bys. uz jsem zkousel kdysi a rad zopakuji.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:28:14)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>hoj<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:28:19)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ViNiL:
situace se zmenila<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:28:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>python
ziskava na popularite celosvetove a i v czsk<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:28:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>souhlas.
pisu, ze to rad zopakuji.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:28:44)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>vitej,
messa<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:29:11) </font></span><b><font
size="3">lukas-lisa [<i>~56313e64@gateway/web/freenode/x-nlwytgvvppymiwew</i>]
entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:29:20) </font></span><b><font
size="3">vladimir left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:29:36)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>(mimochodem,
vsimnete si, ze na py.cz prichazeji lide, kteri hledaji: password,
reset, bios, mom -- opravdu nevim, jestli nachazeji ;-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(19:30:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>dobry
vecer<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:31:15)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>dale,
napiste prosim "adr" ti z vas, koho jakkoli zaujala moje myslenka
adresare tech z nas na webu komunity, kteri chteji, aby se s nimi
jakkoli pocitalo jako se cleny te komunity. samozrejme s volitelnym
mnozstvim individualnich detailu.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(19:31:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>propasnul
jsem neco?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:31:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>adr<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:31:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>lukas-lisa:
dobry vecer, neni mi jasne, na co se ptas :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:31:43)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>od
sedmi se tu seznamujeme :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(19:31:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>hm...
adr<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:32:15)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>minim
tim zjistit, zda to vubec ma cenu nejak rozvadet<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(19:32:53)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">lukas-lisa: </span>Tuttle:
tak to je ok...zadne hlasovani, rybi polivka zdarma ci neco podobneho?
:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(19:32:55)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>adr<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:32:55)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>nedá
sa za python komuniku povazovat mnozina ludi registrovanych na
konferencii? :-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:33:09)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>lukas-lisa:
"hlasovani" bylo nekolik<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:33:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>mate_:
neda, je tam hromada tazatelu, mnohe z nich tema uz nezajima<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#dc5fc2">(19:33:41)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(220, 95, 194);">HS: </span>adr
(ked hovoris, ze s volitelnym mnozstvom detailov, preco nie ;-) )<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#3a768b">(19:34:51)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(58, 118, 139);">Ctibor_: </span>Mě
na Pythonu vadí jedna věc a ta podle mě odradí i nějaké zájemce o
Python aa to je instalace. Zrovna dnes jsem řešil v práci problém, když
jsem si chtěl nainstalovat wxWidgets.Pod 2.6 mi to prostě nešlo, tak
jsem musel instalovat Py 2.5 a do toho už to šlo. A je to tak se
spostami knihoven (např. i s PyGame jsem měl obdobné problémy.)Já
chápu, že někdo chce používat tento modul a druhý zase jiný.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:35:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>adr
se mi zda v dobe facebooku zbytecny<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(19:35:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>nevim,
jestli to tu uz zaznelo, ale napadlo me - co takhle mit na py.cz nejaky
agregator blogu (projekty jako napr. Gnome maji Gnome Planet apod.)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(19:35:22)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">lukas-lisa: </span>Tuttle:
tipuju, ze se hlasovalo jestli mailing list nebo webforum...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:36:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>budu
rad, kdyz ti z vas, kteri si nemysli, ze dukaz toho, ze komunitu tvori
konkretni lide (adresare), je dobry napad napsali, proc si to nemysli.
slo by to?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:36:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>Ctibor_:
technicke detaily nejsou dnesnim tematem, promin<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:36:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>zde
resime lidskou stranku veci v cz a sk<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(19:37:04)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>má
někdo možnosti/kontakty na možnou výměnu bannerů s nějakým jiným webem
- třeba o programování nebo pro mládež?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:37:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
vis, ze jsou jeste 1) lide, kteri na fb nejsou a nechystaji se byt, 2)
lide, kteri si mysli, ze fb neni tak uplne dobry, 2) lide, kteri si
mysli, ze fb je jen docasna hracka a ze v dohledne dobe zanikne? :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:37:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>messa:
na wiki py.cz je misto vyslovene vyzivajici k vytvoreni osobnich
stranek / ala blog. 0 zajem. Opet: neni problem pripravit lepsi
software, ale kdo tam (co) bude psat?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#7fbd99">(19:38:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(127, 189, 153);">Yetty: </span>souhlasim
s Tuttlem, co se tyka fb. Mnohem vyhovujiciho k tomuhle je podle mne
linkedin, kdyz uz.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:38:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ano,
linkedin je mnohem lepsi varianta.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:38:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ze
me to nenapadlo<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(19:39:31)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>koukam
na djangoproject.cz, bavili jste se uz o nejakem propojeni? Myslim ze
komunita neni tak velka aby museli byt 2 separatni projekty.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(19:39:37)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">radonek: </span>Tuttle:
ja s tebou souhlasim, ale nejde o to co si myslim ja. <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:39:46)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>chtel
bych pripomenout, ze na linkedin jsem vytvoril skupinu py.cz ... muzete
se prihlasit a ziskat dalsi odznacek ;-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:40:11)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>(coz
mi pripomina, ze uz jsem asi pul roku neschvaloval nove cleny...)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:40:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>pripojim
se rad<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:40:20)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>aha<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(19:40:56)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>jsou
dokonce lidi, kerym dochazi i nezanedbatelna ztrata soukromi na fb,
takze sve ucty rusi.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:41:02)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
psals v prvni osobe a ze je to tvuj nazor. tak tak reaguju :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:41:58)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>whit_:
django != python. jsem si jist, ze msgre (autor djangoproject.cz) bude
100% jakoukoli synergii<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:42:49)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>oki
vyjadrim se jasneji - me je FB u pr.. , ale myslim ze lidi kteri by
nejak vyuzili "adresar" se protinaji s uzivateli socialnich nesmyslu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(19:43:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ViNiL:
sam rikas, ze wiki py.cz moc nefunguje. Blogy ale funguji, par lidi se
o Pythonu uz dost rozepsalo (myslim v cestine). Mel jsem na mysli neco
jako weblogy.cz, ale ne o webu, ale o Pythonu (ne ze by se to
vylucovalo :) )<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:43:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
s tim nesouhlasim, toto by byl odborny adresar. tedy skvela prace pro
linkedin, pokud by membership v py.cz byla verejna informace, coz imo je<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:43:44) </font></span><b><font
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<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:45:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>myslim,
ze agregator blogu je vynikajici napad. pojil by to malo, co se v oboru
v cesku pise, pridal by zahranicni vyber a velmi by ozivil frontpage<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(19:45:25)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">messa: </span>Tuttle:
presne<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:45:38) </font></span><b><font
size="3">JirkaV [<i>~5e7109ae@gateway/web/freenode/x-iofnvyneurfdtghp</i>]
entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:45:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>agregator
blogu by byl fain<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:46:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>btw
neni nahodou na abicku pythoni skupina?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:47:27)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>neni,
zapomente na to<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#765857">(19:47:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(118, 88, 87);">JirkaV: </span>Ahoj,
sorry ze jdu pozde - prace :(<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:48:02)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ty
blogy, ktere prezily nedavne roky a nebyly svymi autory opusteny, jsou
velmi vyznamnym zdrojem informaci. napriklad na blogy dulezitych clenu
django komunity chodi hodne lidi a uci se triky a tipy. i komentare pod
prispevky jsou prinosne. to neni novinarsky kec, ze blogy jsou novym
druhem komunikace.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(19:48:06)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>Podle
me by se technicke veci spis mely psat v anglictine (je tu nekdo kdo
neumi?) a doklikatelne nekde z python.org; nevzpominam si, kdy jsem
neco hledal a nasel v cestine<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:48:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>souhlasim
s tim<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(19:48:35)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>lokalni
.cz servery bych nechal na svolavani hospod a vesele pribehy z nataceni
:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:49:05)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>nejaky
tip na software pro agregaci blogu?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:49:06)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>komunita
by mela prispivat i ctenarum za hranice<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:49:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>ahojte,
uspaval jsem synka (takze ano, mel jsem technicke problemy) :) <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:49:44)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>msgre:
vitej :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:49:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>v
rychlosti odpovim na polozene otazky <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:49:51)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>lokalita:
ValMez <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:49:57)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>zamestnani:
jsem na jedne noze volne a na druhe u zamestnavatele; obe nohy
pouzivaji python <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:50:03)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>proc
jsem tady: kvuli pythonu prece ne? :) dela se mi v nem dobre; narozdil
od Tuttleho si ale nemyslim, ze by popularita Pythonu v CR rostla, spis
to stagnuje <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:50:09)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>blogy:
myslim si, ze malokdo z nas (vcetne me samozrejme) publikuje COKOLI co
se tyka Pythonu ci Djanga v CR; uvazoval jsem o realizaci nejakeho
agregatoru blogu na djangoproject.cz, ale nemam motivaci, protoze vim o
minimu blogu, ktere by to agregovalo <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:50:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>konec
rychlych odpovedi :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:50:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>uf<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#dc5fc2">(19:51:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(220, 95, 194);">HS: </span>ide
o to, ze blogy o pythone nemusia byt cisto technicke; moze byt blog
kludne o tom ako bolo na stretnuti pythonakov v krcme - a to uz moze
byt problem pre niekoho _napisat_ (precitat to je samozrejme
jednoduchsie)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#dc5fc2">(19:51:24)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(220, 95, 194);">HS: </span>myslel
som napisat v anglictine<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:52:07)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>msgre:
ja se neptal na to, ze js tu kvuli pythonu. ptal jsem se na napady na
temata diskusi, ktera treba nenapadla :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:52:39)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>myslim
si ze zakladni problem je: napsat neco kloudneho (v libovolnem jazyce)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:52:47)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:52:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>aha!
:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:53:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>cetl
jsem to ve velke rychlosti, pardon<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:53:04)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>pohoda
:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:53:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>ja
jsem uvazoval nad 3 vecmi:<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:53:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>1)
pridat agregator blogu na djanproject.cz (ale jak uz jsem psal, mam
pochybnosti o tom, ze bude z ceho agregovat)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:54:18)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>2)
pridat nejake inzertni misto, kde budou potencionalni zamestnavatele
hledat Djangisty (a naopak)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:54:36)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>3)
pridat preklad nejake dalsi dulezite casti Djanga<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:55:22)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ja
treba pisu, a obcas i smysluplne, ale zatim na nastenky BBSky :) a i o
pythonu. pro praci jsem jeste nerealizoval svuj vicejazycny blog, ktery
nosim v hlave<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(19:55:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>btw.
delate tu nekdo web(y) v Pythonu jinak nez v Djangu? Nejen ze Python !=
Django (jak uz snad bylo receno), ale ani Python na webu != Django<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:56:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>Zkousel
jsem jednou web.py<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:56:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>messa:
souhlas. ale ja razim Django -- pro podobnou filosofii, jako ma samotny
Python jsem mu propadl<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(19:56:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>zope/plone<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(19:56:25)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">messa: </span>Tuttle:
vicejazycny blog nosim v hlave take :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:56:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>A
asi to uz vickrat delat nebudu :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:56:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>vykaslete
se na vicejazycne blogy a piste chlapi :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(19:57:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>registrace
na tumblr.com je behem minuty a pouziva se to snadno... <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:57:19)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>messa:
on klient docela cumi, kdyz jeden den telefonicky nastreli svoje
pozadavky, druhy den to emailem upresnime a treti den browsi po sajte,
kde je vetsina veci hotova a ma k tomu kompletniho admina<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:58:37)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>msgre:
vsechny podnety z tohoto roomu si pozdeji proberu a promyslim<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:58:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>ma
zajem nekdo z vas zitra vecer se setkat v Praze?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(19:58:54) </font></span><b><font
size="3">vladimir [<i>~5967fd67@gateway/web/freenode/x-fxhuazcxqlrvgben</i>]
entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:58:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>jedu
tam za praci na par dni<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(19:59:08)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>muze
bejt<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(19:59:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>radonek:
jake misto bys doporucil? nekuracke<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(19:59:55)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>aj
mňa dostalo Django podobne ako Python, cítim že majú spoločnú
filozofiu, ale aká je to vlastne filozofia, dá sa to nejako pomenovať,
aká je jej podstata?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(20:00:21)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>je
o tom hromada blogpostu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#af7f00">(20:00:26)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(175, 127, 0);">radonek: </span>Tuttle:
nejsem bohuzel znalec mistnich hospod, ziju tu jen kratce<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:00:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>o
tom je import this :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(20:01:18)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>PRATELE,
dekuju vam za ucast, mam radost z tech podnetu. az tento room dnes
uhasne, zkopiruju ho do konference. pujdu se venovat dceri. <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(20:01:27)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>zvu
vas na pristi tyden (streda), kdy se tu muzeme sejit znova.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:01:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>kdyz
tak tady ctu plany na zvyseni svetovosti kolem pythonu v cz/sk, tak
musim rict, ze me se libi jak to je :) <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(20:02:14)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>do
konfery dnes/zitra napisu i pozvanku na vecerni setkani v Praze. ocenim
tip na nekuracky podnik. je mi jedno, kdybysme se sesli i jen dva.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(20:02:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>lukas-lisa:
ale ono v podstate nic neni<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1e8fe6">(20:02:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(30, 143, 230);">msgre: </span>packo<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:03:04)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>na
budejovicky je nekracka hospoda kolkovna ale maj tam pivo skoro za 40 :(<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font color="#204a87"><font size="2">(20:03:05)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(32, 74, 135);">Tuttle: </span>dik
vsem, ahoj<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#42505c">(20:03:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(66, 80, 92);">geon: </span>ahoj<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#8e2da7">(20:03:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(142, 45, 167);">mate_: </span>ahoj<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:03:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>a
co takhle caj?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:03:30)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>dobrou<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#1a8e9e">(20:03:41)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(26, 142, 158);">whit_: </span>ahojte.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:03:49) </font></span><b><font
size="3">whit_ left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving...).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#482f85">(20:04:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(72, 47, 133);">keson: </span>cau<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:04:22) </font></span><b><font
size="3">keson left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).</font></b><br>
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<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(20:05:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>hm,
to jsme toho zase vyresili.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:07:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>ViNiL:
<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:07:24)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>sakra...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:07:44) </font></span><b><font
size="3">vladimir left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#765857">(20:08:03)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(118, 88, 87);">JirkaV: </span>Ja
jsem tu nebyl na velkou cast, takze nevim co presne bylo cilem, ale co
na pristi tyden vyrobit seznam temat k diskusi?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:08:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>co
bylo vlasne k reseni?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:09:52) </font></span><b><font
size="3">mate_ left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 248 seconds).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#dc5fc2">(20:10:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(220, 95, 194);">HS: </span>caute<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(20:10:18)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>no,
ja uvitam jakoukoliv konkretni aktivitu. bavili jsem se treba o tom, ze
by bylo desne skvele mit blog aggregator, ale nikdo nenapsal ani jediny
blog, ktery bychom vlastne chteli agregovat.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:10:25) </font></span><b><font
size="3">HS left the room (quit: Quit: Client exiting).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:11:10)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>mel
jsem z poslednich mailu z listu zato, ze bude probihat diskuze o forme
komunikace - jestli zachovat mailing list nebo prejit na webove
forum....ale to uz je asi OT<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:11:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>z
poslednich ktere jsem stih precist...pro upresni :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:11:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>na
to zaplatpambu neprisla rec<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#765857">(20:11:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(118, 88, 87);">JirkaV: </span>To
je tezke, ja resim v Pythonu pomerne hodne specificke otazky, ktere v
CZ/SK krome me asi nikoho nezajimaji, takze pro me nema moc smysl psat
blog cesky<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:13:32)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ViNiL:
blogy? tak treba co me zrovna napadlo: <a
href="http://www.karotka.cz/technologie">http://www.karotka.cz/technologie</a>
<a href="http://georgik.sinusgear.com/tag/python/">http://georgik.sinusgear.com/tag/python/</a>
dost lidi nebloguje primo o Pythonu, ale obcas o nem neco napise; to by
take slo<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(20:14:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>lukas-lisa:
o zamene moc nemuze byt rec... vzhledem k tomu, ze oba typy komunikace
maji trochu jine priznivce, tak nevim, proc rusit mailing list, kdyz
alespon nekolika stavajicim ucastnikum vyhovuje.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(20:14:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>takze
podle me otazka zni: jake dalsi aktivity muzeme vyvijet a kdo tomu bude
(poradne venovat)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:14:15)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>a
pokud jde o agregator - spachal jsem slogy.cz, ale neni to v Djangu,
tak nevim, jak se to komu bude libit :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:15:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>me
se to urcite libit bude :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:15:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ad
mailing-list - me se zda, ze to neni o Pythonu, ale o komunite samotne;
protoze kdo se chce zeptat na Python, tak ma k dispozici od builder.cz
pres abclinuxu.cz az po treba stackoverflow.com<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:16:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>no
nevik jak ten zbytek, ale na abicku se python prakticky nevyskytuje<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a40000">(20:16:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(164, 0, 0);">ViNiL: </span>messa:
dobre, zalozil jsem si seznam o 2 kouscich. az dosahnu 5, tak se do
toho pustim ;-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:16:32)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>jak
nekdo napsal, ze vstupni bariera do mailing-listu (tj. prihlaseni se
apod.) je vyhodou, to mi fakt neprijde jako dobre gesto zajemcum o
Python<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:16:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>podle
me ma smysl psat cesky...myslim, ze to je to, cim muze kazdy zkusenejsi
pythonista prispet do ceskeho pythoniho rybnika :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:17:44)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>messa:
otazka je co myslis temi zajemci. <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:19:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>to
je taky dobra otazka... koho chceme oslovit - chceme treba Python jako
prvni jazyk pro lidi, kteri zkousi programovat? U nich je obliba
weboveho fora vs. mailing listu asi jasna...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:19:53)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>me
to pripada jako vnucovani se lidem kterym nestojime ani za to napsat
subject do mailu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:20:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>radonek:
moje rec, kdyz srovnas napriklad deni kolem linuxu nebo php za
poslednich par let, tak jsou vsechny fora tak zavaleny neustale se
opakujicimi dotazy novacku, ze se kazdy alespon trochu zajimavy dotaz
ztrati...navic lidi co umej tyhle fora uz nesledujou<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:21:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>dalsi
argument, proc mailing list a pripadne forum pro novacky nechat
oddelene :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:23:29)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>to
jsem myslel spis jako vtip<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:23:39)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>to
uz je pak takovy ghetto mysleni<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:25:19)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>ale
bohuzel jsem pevne presvedcen ze vetsi obliba cehokoliv sebou nese
zastup pitomcu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:25:25)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>takze
bude jedine hur<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:25:46)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ok,
nechame je PHP komunite :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:25:55)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>:-)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:28:04)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>ja
osobne si vazim toho, ze to je tak jak to je a jako zacatecnika me to
zavazuje k nepokladani dotazu, ktere mi zodpovi za 2min google...kdyz
do listu neco posilam, tak se cejtim jako bych psal tem x lidem osobne<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:28:18)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>no
prave<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:28:31)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ne
kazdy ma na to odvahu<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:29:16)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>no
prave<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:29:45)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>nez
se vsichni rozuteceme... ma nekdo neco zajimaveho na GitHubu? kdyz se
po GH porozhlednu, vidim same Ruby a Rails :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:29:59)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>pokud
mluvime o odvaze ptat se na neco co vyresi google nebo RTFM za dve
minuty, tak je to jedine dobre<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:30:44)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>s
gitem se mam v planu zacit prat az se doperu s pyqt<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:32:04) </font></span><b><font
size="3">Kumor [<i>~59679013@gateway/web/freenode/x-fxapdblnqwbteskn</i>]
entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#349477">(20:32:54)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(52, 148, 119);">Kumor: </span>Ahoj,
koukám že vás tady ještě pár je. Málem jsem na to zapomněl.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:33:20)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>uz
to rozpoustime<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:34:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>tedy
ja to rozpoustim, vypoustim a opoustim <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#02680a">(20:34:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(2, 104, 10);">radonek: </span>hoj<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#349477">(20:34:34)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(52, 148, 119);">Kumor: </span>tak
to jsem přišl trochu pozdě. padlo něco zajímavého?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:34:41) </font></span><b><font
size="3">radonek left the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:35:06)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ono
se toho zas az tolik asi neprobralo<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:35:49) </font></span><b><font
size="3">radonek [<i>~opera@proxy.seznam.cz</i>] entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:36:00) </font></span><b><font
size="3">radonek left the room (quit: Quit: radonek).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:36:03)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>mel
by byt k dispozici log. co se hlavne probralo - zitra by mohlo byt
setkani v Praze, planuje se tusim dalsi setkani na IRC<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:36:08) </font></span><b><font
size="3">JirkaV left the room (quit: Quit: Page closed).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#349477">(20:36:40)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(52, 148, 119);">Kumor: </span>ve
zline setkani asi nebude, ze? :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:36:53)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>kdyz
nekoho sezenes... :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:37:08)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>mozna
by bylo fajn vyzobavat vysledna reseni z listu a davat je na web<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:37:25) </font></span><b><font
size="3">radonek [<i>~opera@proxy.seznam.cz</i>] entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:37:40) </font></span><b><font
size="3">radonek left the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:38:42)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>vysledna
reseni... spis nejaky zapis. me osobne to prislo jako brainstorming<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:39:13)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>predeslo
by se tim potencionalnimu opakovani zodpovezenych dotazu....ono
vyhledavani fultextem v google groups neni casto schudne...proste
clovek ma myslenku ale nema klicova slova :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:40:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>messa:
<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:40:43)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>krucinalfagothymlhergotdonevetr....tenhle
web irc je na bohnice...<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#349477">(20:41:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(52, 148, 119);">Kumor: </span>kdyz
jsme u tech zodpovezenych dotazu.. nekoukali jste se nahodou nekdo na
ten muj problem s vyplnovanim formularu, co byl v dnesnich a vcerejsich
mailovych dotazech?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#349477">(20:42:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(52, 148, 119);">Kumor: </span>O:)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:42:02)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>messa:
spis jsem mel na mysli to zaznamenavat ve formatu POLOZNA OTAZKA: *****
: VYSLEDNA ODPOVED<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:42:23) </font></span><b><font
size="3">dvx left the room (quit: Quit: dvx).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:42:41) </font></span><b><font
size="3">dvx [<i>~dvx@igw.obsm.cz</i>] entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:43:33)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>Kumor:
po zkouskach se na to rad podivam :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#349477">(20:44:18)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(52, 148, 119);">Kumor: </span>tak
doufam ze se ti je vsechny podari udelat uz zitra ;)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:45:33)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>pres
roota jsem narazil dneska na pekny clanek s python tematikou - neni v
nem sice na prvni pohled nic objevneho ale verim tomu, ze pridavat na
web texty podobneho obsahu by smsl melo . navic by se mohli pripojit i
pylamy jako ja :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:45:36)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span><a
href="http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/tutorials/ten-more-essential-python-tips/">http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/tutorials/ten-more-essential-python-tips/</a><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:49:17)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ja
si take myslim, ze by to byl dobry napad. ale pokud to ma byt na py.cz,
pak nemam dobry pocit z toho, ze by se to pridavalo nekam hluboko do
wiki. Ale premyslet tu nahlas o redesignu py.cz, to si netroufnu :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:49:23)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>soucasny
obsah py.cz je fajn ale musim rict, ze kolikrat jsem se tam dostal k
nejakemu textu pres google a kdybych to mel hledat pres navigaci webu
samotneho, asi bych neuspel<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:49:38)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>resp
bych nevytrval ...presnejc receno<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:50:01)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>kdyz
narazis na obsah (prehled vsech stranek), pak uz to jde rychle :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:53:48)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>ta
skupina na LinkedIn uz existuje, nebo to byl "jen" napad?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(20:55:52)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>messa:
optimalizace webu pro lidi veda :) me se osobne celkem libi tenhle web <a
href="http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/">http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/</a>
neni sice o pythonu ale svym usporadanim me prijde prijemny na
brouzdani a uceni se novych drobnosti<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(20:58:30) </font></span><b><font
size="3">slush [<i>~563103e6@gateway/web/freenode/x-rqyydesxdgntlqzs</i>]
entered the room.</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(20:58:56)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>lukas-lisa:
me to prijde jako blog... barvy to ma pekne (pro Python by to do
barevneho schematu chtelo jeste trochu zlute :) ) ale tucnaci by asi
nebyli politicky korektni :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(20:59:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>Zdravim
vsechny, takove akce doporucuji ohlasovat drive, nez 24 hodin pred
startem - uz proto, ze hodne lidi cte mailing listy jednou denne a
zpravidla vecer (ja).<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(21:00:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>slush:
zdravim tez <br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(21:01:28)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>Jsem
IRC lama (diky za link v python foru na web UI) - najdu nekde zaznam,
co se probiralo od sedmi?<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(21:02:51)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>messa:
mel jsem spis na mysli kontextove doporucovani clanku, popr labelovani
a tak ...no a v rohu zluty had :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cf2458">(21:06:07)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(207, 36, 88);">dqd: </span>Záznam
můžu vystavit, jestli má někdo zájem.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cf2458">(21:06:22)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(207, 36, 88);">dqd: </span>Asi
jo.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(21:10:07)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>dqd:
urcite, dik<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cf2458">(21:10:08)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(207, 36, 88);">dqd: </span><a
href="http://pastebin.dqd.cz/PVyZ/">http://pastebin.dqd.cz/PVyZ/</a><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#7fbd99">(21:26:27)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(127, 189, 153);">Yetty: </span>messa:
skupina na linkedin existuje, <a href="http://bit.ly/agY3cG">http://bit.ly/agY3cG</a><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(21:28:00)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>Uff,
diskuze sestnacti lidi je docela maso - malem jsem si zavaril mozek,
ale zvladnul jsem to :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cf2458">(21:28:11)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(207, 36, 88);">dqd: </span>Gratulace.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(21:28:27)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>Yetty:
diky<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#731c85">(21:28:42)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(115, 28, 133);">lukas-lisa: </span>mizim,
dobrou.<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(21:28:50)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>zdar<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(21:28:55)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>Jen
jsem nenasel, kde je napsane, v kolik a kde je zitra ten sraz v Praze -
jestli je<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2">(21:28:58) </font></span><b><font
size="3">lukas-lisa left the room (quit: ).</font></b><br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(21:29:05)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>Jen
jsem nasel zminku o hospode s pivem za 40 :)<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#a5a7e7">(21:29:27)
</font></font></span><span
style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(165, 167, 231);">messa: </span>slush:
pamatuju si, ze pry bude upresneno v konferenci<br>
<span style="font-weight: normal;"><font size="2"><font color="#cc0000">(21:29:45)
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style="font-weight: normal; color: rgb(204, 0, 0);">slush: </span>Aha,
takhle jeste nebylo - bezva, budu sledovat.<br>
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